Curse

LifeInfusion · Mar 09, 2006, 02:08 AM // 02:08

One superior -75 HP --> with superior vigor -25HP
Two superiors -150HP --> with superior vigor -125HP
Three superiors -225HP --> with superior vigor -175HP
Four Superiors -300 HP --> with superior vigor -250HP
Five Superiors -375 HP --> cannot have superior vigor (all slots -75)

Obviously, if someone has Four or more superiors it means they either are a person that should not be on the team due to stupidity of using so many superiors, or stay off team because they are a 105 or 55er (which doesn't exactly help the team).

There ought to be an alert next to the person's box in the party window. (An exclamation point maybe)

You'd be surprised. I've ben in teams like with a mesmer once and a warrior another time with 3 superiors that died every 5 seconds.

Mandy Memory · Mar 09, 2006, 03:00 AM // 03:00

I think you should be able to right click on someone on your team and see their skillbar and equipment. That way you can get rid of staff warriors and sword E/W too.

kvndoom · Mar 09, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

A simple, incredibly simple, so damn simple I can't believe the 10 lines of code haven't been implemented, way to resolve this, is to add a checkbox in the options menu- "Show Numerical HP in Party Window". Check the box, and you see actual NUMBERS overlaying the red health bars. You'll know what you're dealing with before you even start the mission. It's not a 100% cure (armor swaps, of course), but it'll help considerably. I too have been in PUG's where my freaking healing Monk was a better tank that the warrior. Sheesh.

Vilaptca · Mar 09, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01

I think kvndoom has the better solution, but I still want what Mandy Memory suggested also. Its just a cool way to show off your gear, and to looks at another persons.

Stupid Shizno · Mar 09, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Mandy Memory

I think you should be able to right click on someone on your team and see their skillbar and equipment. That way you can get rid of staff warriors and sword E/W too.

I disagree totally. If your a party leader and are worried about a 55 monk, do a HP check. I do when i run FoW. And no, you should not be allowed to see someones skill bar, this would create even more copy cat builds for PvP. And to further rebudle your statement how are you going to know a warrior brings a staff? there is no spell "staff slap". Ever heard of a N/W? goes something like Sever Attery, Gash, Final Thrust, Life Transfer, Vampric Gaze, Dark Pact....oh yea...kick him cause he carrys a sword. For being in a GvG guild i expected a higher intellegence from you.

LightningHell · Mar 09, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by Death3D

Ever heard of a N/W? goes something like Sever Attery, Gash, Final Thrust, Life Transfer, Vampric Gaze, Dark Pact....oh yea...kick him cause he carrys a sword. For being in a GvG guild i expected a higher intellegence from you.

Don't flame...

That is a mediocre build at most...

And he was talking about warriors holding damn staffs...now if that isn't something wrong, I've got to hear about it...

The only case where a caster is justified holding a sword is when he/she is holding a HoD sword.

It's no big mystery what people bring with their builds anyways; if you don't know clearly one person's skill-list, you're sort of screwed.

=HT=Ingram · Mar 09, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

I use 2 superiors all the time as a monk with no problem... I just switch off my armors when I need a boost in Divine or Healing... And effective Monk can use their 105/55 armor in PvE for missions to be a better healer or protector... On the fly... With my hale and fortitude mods I normally have a health of 405 or someplace in that neighborhood at the beginning. for max healing effect... But yet every time I flash my health everyone freaks out...
Whatever... I switch around my armors when I need too so I either have more health or more attrib... depends on what we are doing and who we are playing with... A maxed out prot monk with a max prot and -1max divine is fantastic to have.. especially if your using a 20 or 20/20 (green) wand and 20/20 offhand... Anyways. believe whatever you want. Supieror runes are a great tool for people that know how to use them and when to use them. dont knock it just cause your pi$$ed about something silly...

Mr.H.Mishima · Mar 09, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

You'd be surprised. I've ben in teams like with a mesmer once and a warrior another time with 3 superiors that died every 5 seconds.

There's something to be said for pure lack of skill too you know. The problem with your idea about seeing party members HP's is that HP's are no indication of skill...even with seeing the skillbar, it's still no indication of skill. You simply can't know until you actually see them in action.

Just because they have less than full HP's doesn't mean their survivability isn't good. As a warrior, there should be no problem with carrying 2 superior runes...as long as you carry the armor buffs/evasion stances to reduce the damage you are taking. Same goes for other classes.

Moa Bird Cultist · Mar 09, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandy Memory

I think you should be able to right click on someone on your team and see their skillbar and equipment. That way you can get rid of staff warriors and sword E/W too.

Not to troll or anything, but have you ever tried a sword E/W? They make for extremely durable PvE tanks if done right - though I'm of the opinion a sword wielding E/W is better off putting their warrior points into tactics rather than sword mastery. I'm serious too. Deadly Riposte and Riposte were in my ele's skillbar months before the buff. Sorry to rant, but having played for so long as an E/W, I feel I have to say my part everytime people talk down about sword E/W builds...

LightningHell · Mar 10, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54

E/W is fine, because you have Earth magic.

Minus Sign · Mar 10, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

The only case where a caster is justified holding a sword is when he/she is holding a HoD sword.I

Two words: Illusionary Weaponry

/signed for what Mandy Memory suggested and kvndoom=props

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

...stay off team because they are a 105 or 55er (which doesn't exactly help the team).

*shakes head* At least your getting smarter about it...

LightningHell · Mar 10, 2006, 04:41 AM // 04:41

In any case, I agree with you, Minus Sign. I totally forgot IW, since I play it so...rarely...

I don't get the point of N/W sword holders...

LifeInfusion · Mar 10, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

E/W is fine, because you have Earth magic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minus Sign

Two words: Illusionary Weaponry

enchantment stripping.

LightningHell · Mar 10, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07

Quite right.

PieXags · Mar 10, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Lets try to keep comments towards the suggestion at hand, not how wicked people can be with swords.

As a whole, no I don't think you should be able to see other peoples skill bars, hp, or energy, or even weapons by clicking their names in any way. If you're that concerned about what your party brings---ASK THEM. Some people have no idea how to play the game and will kick people because their close minded and can't see the point of someone's build, some people don't want their build spread all over the internet, etc---if you want to know what your team's got ask them, if they won't TELL you, kick them if that's how you want to be. Either way, there's no reason you should be able to read other peoples character setup in any way unless they choose to let you know.

Skuld · Mar 10, 2006, 09:27 AM // 09:27

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

Don't flame...

That is a mediocre build at most...

And he was talking about warriors holding damn staffs...now if that isn't something wrong, I've got to hear about it...

The only case where a caster is justified holding a sword is when he/she is holding a HoD sword.

It's no big mystery what people bring with their builds anyways; if you don't know clearly one person's skill-list, you're sort of screwed.

I use:
1)Yakslapper
2)19% enchanting brute sword and 20/20 prot icon

which is better? (don't shout kephets refuge to me, my ele is having that, ugly thing

)

LightningHell · Mar 10, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Of course I won't

I think you would be better off not attacking, then.

Mordakai · Mar 10, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by Death3D

I disagree totally. If your a party leader and are worried about a 55 monk, do a HP check.

I think this point got missed....

bad person · Mar 10, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

/not signed

As others have said, it would be very easy for someone to switch out their armor once you've gotten to where you're going. What next? Maybe be able to view someone's entire inventory so you can make sure they don't have a second set of armor?

pappayaponta · Mar 10, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Yes, Like inspect in WoW where you can see what the other is equipping.